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PostPosted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 7:54 am
by Guest
feel comfortable taking the 80 off shore? ok - so it would need a few saftey gadgets, but hull, rig, sail integrity for off shore- what do you think?

i am considering a wilmington nc to carribean trip... bcuz... well it's the boat i have and it's paid for...and i want to do it... and why not?

i think the boat could handle it with proper trim and saftey precautions, but i am curious from other owners if anyone has considered it.

PostPosted: Sun Jul 24, 2005 6:20 pm
by Guest
Just sail with the hatchboard in, check in via sat phone or sat email. You should find some college babe from ColofCharlie to go with you.

PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 1:38 pm
by Guest
Most J80 mainsails offered currently are geared for racing and as such, do not lend themselves to reefing with ease. Sailing under full J80 main and furled jib can still be too much sail in some ocean conditions. Having solved that and taking into consideration the standard offshore precautions and personal experience, I'd be comfortable going for it. Keep us posted on your status.

PostPosted: Sun Jul 31, 2005 10:12 pm
by Guest
Jonathan allow me to translate the previous two posts for you.

Yada Yada says,

Just sail with the hatchboard in (Here is some worthless advice to make it seem like I care) Check in via sat phone or sat email ( I have 10 bucks in the pool that says you dont make it to Georgia and want to know when to collect) You should find some college babe from ColofCharlie to go with you. (C of Charleston women are pretty stupid so you might convince one of this scheme and if you just kill yourself you will never make the news much better to off some attractive blond coed who's picture can be splashed across the tv and newspapers...)

Jamie says,

Most J80 mainsails offered currently are geared for racing and as such, do not lend themselves to reefing with ease. Sailing under full J80 main and furled jib can still be too much sail in some ocean conditions. Having solved that and taking into consideration the standard offshore precautions and personal experience, I'd be comfortable going for it. Keep us posted on your status (I am going to take yada's money like candy from a baby. You arent making it to south carolina)

PostPosted: Sun Jul 31, 2005 10:31 pm
by Guest
Ok so here is the real advice.

I think the boat could make it in most conditions. However there are serious considerations to look into and decide whether or not you want to do it.

The first is seaworthiness. You are going to have to do something about that big hole up front where the pole normally goes. Even with the pole intact if you keep burying the bow into waves water is going to find its way in. Secondly the hatch board leaves alot to be desired. You need to get away from the all or nothing and need to be able to secure from the inside, so that when you are in there contemplating your upside down world the sea stays mostly out there.

Second huge item is what safety gear you feel comfortable with. It is all going to add up in both dollars in weight. I would want as a bare minimum harnesses, jacklines, life raft (and supplies) epirb.

Steering is going to be a big concern more steerers equal more crew equals more supplies needed and heavier (less safe) boat. Self steering equals huge power consumption equals lots of fuel or expensive windgenerator or solar cells.

Water you will need quite a bit. water maker possible or load lots of plastic jugs with all the other gear.


These are just some of the concerns but it would be one <font color="ff0000">•</font><font color="ff0000">•</font><font color="ff0000">•</font><font color="ff0000">•</font> of an adventure. I would do short hops down the coast to miami then over to the bahamas and down from there.

Depending on everything on what you have and what you can beg borrow or steal. (limiting what you would need to buy for the trip) it might be cheaper to ship the boat down or to leave the boat get a couple of buddies together and charter something down there already

Cheers and if you make a miami stop I will meet you at the dock with some ice cold beer.

Tak

PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2005 9:21 am
by Guest
tak - you crack me up! your first post was worth reading all the others over again! ha ha haaaa well done and well said even if none of it is true! i am still chuckling.

i have about 10,000 ocean miles and have seen and been thru s**t that would turn many small boat sailors green from the smell of the crap in their trowsers. i don't pretend to know much about ocean sailing with a only a few miles under my belt and i certainly consider myself a babe in the realm of offshore sailing, but i have gained a VERY healthy respect for the ocean.

i do believe the boat can handle it with proper prep and safety precautions, and this would be a solo trip.

the minimum eqip list for a 7-10day passage would be, navik windvane, st2000 autopilot, epirb, harness, jacklines, 2 jibs, 1 genny, 2 mains (one reinforced for offshore), 1 spin, 15gals of fuel, 20 gals of water (mostly frozen to start), dodger, small furuno radar (monochrome display), depth and 3 gps units. i would love to try to arrange a liferaft but doubt it will fit, 3 8gu1 batteries with 3 solar panels. - ...and oh yes an ipod full of jimmy buffet, and a case of mount gay...

the goal would be that all gear would not weight any more than the other three crew members that would normally be on the boat.

anyway - thanks for the posts all, the best piece of advice so far seems to be to bring a charleston gal along... i love charleston... unfortunately they did away with college night at club tango... <IMG SRC="http://j80.org/discus/clipart/sad.gif" ALT=":-(" BORDER=0>

tak perhaps see you in miami....