Thinking of a J 80

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Postby Guest » Tue Feb 01, 2011 12:51 am

I sold my much loved J 29 thinking I was going to take a break from being a Boat owner after 25 years. But am thinking I rushed into it and am wondering how I might like the J 80. Getting crew for the J 29 has always been trouble and the J 80's seems like it would be the perfect fit for us. Kids are all grown and grand kids will be old enough for the boat in a few years so all I am after is a fun day sailor. So if you could fill me full of wisdom on the J 80.

Thanks Cliff
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Postby aburton » Tue Feb 01, 2011 11:38 am

A wholehearted yes! The boat is terrific as a daysailer. First time I put mine in the water last July 4, my wife and I picked the boat up and got it rigged (for the first time) and sailing by noon, then had a lovely sail and picnic with the dog aboard. The boat is a treat for someone who likes a lively, maneuverable little rocket. It's easy to singlehand and there's room for a bunch of friends.
There are some cons:
There is no coaming so your seat is going to get wet if spray comes on deck. Some won't like leaning back on the lifelines. And the boats are more expensive than many other daysailers in that size range so if you're not going to race you might find something better suited for the purpose for less money.

But if you get a boat, you really should race. As a newby to the class I've felt very welcome and everyone from the class president to the pros to the builder has bent over backwards to help me get up to speed, both on the racecourse and in the bar.
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Postby danieljcpa » Tue Feb 01, 2011 11:54 am

For fun...a picture tells the whole story!

Even in these hard times a picture is still worth at least 200 words.

wasaaabi

<img src="http://j80.org/discus/messages/4/967.jpg" alt="Party race...9 on board and room for one more">
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Postby aburton » Tue Feb 01, 2011 12:05 pm

<img src="http://j80.org/discus/messages/4/971.jpg" alt="">
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Postby jiggers » Tue Feb 01, 2011 4:10 pm

I agree with Andrew wholeheartedly! The best daysailer you could choose.

Nice pics btw...

Good luck with your decision.

Best

Lawrence
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Postby rob_m » Tue Feb 01, 2011 4:19 pm

As a former J/29 owner, I would wholeheartedly recommend the J/80. The class president is also a former J/29 owner.
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Postby beauly » Tue Feb 01, 2011 6:55 pm

I got mine just last winter and had a blast with it this summer.... learning a lot and went to the Worlds, (but not with our boat) this fall... what a trip that was! whhhoooo whooo! Hold on!!!
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Postby danieljcpa » Tue Feb 01, 2011 8:39 pm

Oh yeah...forget about fore deck work. Roller furling jib and bowsprit pretty much eliminate that...The first time we sailed ours there were only the 2 of us and we wondered what the rest of the crew would do...hoist Spinnaker, roll up jib, open a beer...just like that and Jibe...almost too easy...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9Xgorb6Fmg
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Postby beauly » Tue Feb 01, 2011 9:33 pm

I love it!!!! Now, I have to say that my right shoulder is still shot (not even yet ready to get it checked out my a doc... a little too worried about what he would say) from the jibes that we were doing at the Worlds this fall, I was the pull man, pulling that sail across in 30 knots is another story, but in 10 knots (or less) it is a total breeze as shown in the video above
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Postby crazy » Wed Jun 15, 2011 12:17 am

I use to own Parthian Shot J29 fractional, loved the boat however, the J80 is way more fun less work, faster, and I still sail long distance, bouy, and OD. The J80 is a gas get one you will be glad you did!

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Postby Guest » Fri Feb 10, 2012 9:29 pm

I'm thinking of a J80 and am wondering how high they can point upwind?

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Postby danieljcpa » Fri Feb 10, 2012 9:58 pm

We sail at high altitude and in flat water so we can point really high tacking through 75 degrees and sometimes we deliberately point up very high to hold off the Olsen 30 that is faster but can't point high enough to roll us if we get them into the lee bow position.

The thing we found out is that the VMG to windward in much more important than how high we point at any given time.

We seem to be doing better to sail the boat upwind using a target speed for the wind we are sailing in. The boat is very responsive to a 3 to 5 degree change in wind angle and we use polar charts to pre-determin our target speed for each wind range.

For example, Flat water, 15 mph wind, at 7000 ft. elevation (less molecules than at see level) we target 5.6 knots. If we find ourselves going faster we head up and if we are going slower we foot a little...the range of steering is somewhere around 5 degrees from pointing to footing.

Also let me point out that I only sail in mixed fleets and there are no other J80's in our area. If one is racing one design (the best) the only thing that matters is how well your J80 points or foots relative to the other identical boats in the race.

Short answer...they point really high.

Wasaaabi
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Postby jiggers » Wed Oct 10, 2012 6:14 pm

So what decision did you take? The suspense is killing me!!!
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