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PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 10:32 am
by dan_jwa
TPI and Schaeffer Marine have just sold out of J80 Rudder Pintles (the piece on the rudder). Our experience has been that these pieces wear out on a regular basis, either by wearing away slowly and allowing slop in the rudder or by breaking at the front of the rudder. Neither TPI or Schaeffer Marine are planning on stocking any more of these parts, as they no longer build J80s. It may be necessary at some point as a class to get a group order in for these parts, and/or have some shipped from Europe.

PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 11:23 pm
by nikonsean
Are the French pieces compatible individually or must both pintles and gudgeons be replaced together? I would be interested in participating on an order from Europe.

Sean

PostPosted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 12:54 am
by Guest
One of my crew has honed individual pintles for both boats for several owners, who have used them on both sides of the "pond", in his machine shop. He designs equipment for precision medical surgery and I have used his pintles as well. It is probably a more snug fit than the original.

PostPosted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 3:55 am
by Guest
In my experience, the parts on the rudder are not the ones which wear out, since they have a large contact area. I have replaced the parts on the transom only with excellent results. One key to making the repair last indefinitely is to fix the rod/bolt from rotating relative to the parts on the transom, thereby eliminating wear.

[Posted by: Chris Morlan
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 1:58 am
by Guest
Dan, I've got a lot of vibration in my rudder so If you come up with a solution I'd be interested in hearing it or going in on an order with you. Separately, I have heard of a solution that involves over-drilling the gudgeons and then using replaceable sleeves over the pintle where they go through the holes. When the sleeves wear out they can be replaced. I'll try to look into where/how etc.

[Posted by: Chris Johnson
]

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by Guest
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 9:13 pm
by Guest
I have the same problem .002 of wear in the gudgens. The pin should be stablized. For now however my short term fix (for the next several weeks) is to shim with al cans. The difference in the bottom of the rudder movement is significant. Cutting vertical strips of al from the cans and inserting them as you insert the pin makes a huge difference.

Eventually replacing the parts from pearson or redrilling will be required.

CTW

PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 7:14 pm
by Guest
Where does one find the specs for how far apart the gudgeons can be mounted on a new rudder?